#can we talk abt Rachel and Leah

[bendrownedbodypillow]

Reading the Torah and understanding why G-d was so mad all the time, everyone was a hoe, no one listened then he had to make a flood AND THEN THE HUMANS FUCKING DID IT AGAIN

[missr3n3]

Ask game shopping list!

1) for Josh and Iz

9) for Josh and Leah

13) for Cairyx and Cassie

14) for Leah and Maddie

16) for Leah, Maddie and Cassie :3

19) for Jessie

25) for Cassie and Eli

1) Does your OC have a voice claim, if so who?

joshua: wes night from rad mad venture (sample)

isaac: slightly chiller version of howard from cabin tales (6:15-6:56 is a pretty solid example)

BONUS: joshua's devil noises sound like this at 5:43

9) How does your OC handle their physical health? Do they take care of themselves?

neither of them are especially focused on their physical health, but they both have small things they do to take care of themselves. for leah, she likes going on afternoon walks through towns, does some yoga stretches in the morning and before bed, and prefers to do home cooking when the whole gangs schedules n budget allow for it.

joshua is a very outdoorsy person, so he'll often visit hiking trails when he doesn't have anything else to do. also, he has some health perks from his Weird Hellfire Biology: he never gets sick because no pathogens can survive in him, and he burns a lot of calories just being in his human form (thats also why cael devils tend to be a bit warmer than humans)

13) Does your OC have a rival? How did it start?

cairyx: i can see him considering luce's Boys (the other hell princes) rivals since they tend to pull his attention away from senseless violence and more towards apocalypse schemes, which cairyx finds super boring

cassie: nope! she's a very easy-going person and isn't as competitive when it comes to numbers as elijah

14) Who's a character your OC cannot stand! It's on sight when they see them!

elijah hardy for both of them. more so for madeline since she was too busy freeing joshua from the attic to get all the details abt the blackmail

16) How's their relationship with their parents? Are they alive?

leah: strained. her parents became much more of a fanatic in their religious beliefs after rachel's death, especially her dad. so leah doesn't talk with them much outside of holidays

madeline: her dad completely ghosted both her and her mom after the divorce, but she still gets along well with her mom and will often call her to update her on how her life's been after moving to rochester

cassie: she's still on good terms with both her parents, but she didn't get to see them much for a while due to how busy she was with college and the youtube channel. she'll be in contact with them much more frequently now that elijah's youtube career is basically over tho

19) What's their sexuality? What's their love language both giving and receiving?

as stated in her character bio on the neocities, jessie's a lesbian! tho she hasn't been in the mood for dating in a while between andrew's death and all the chaos surrounding nox in 2009.

in her younger years while she was still seeing people, she would often show her affection through her words n helping out with chores n other such tasks. she also preferred receiving love through direct words, and was really turned off when her partners would try to make her read their minds.

25) Are they the kind of person who can't resist a good song? Can I catch your OC singing to themselves while they do the dishes?

yes for both, but more so for cassandra since she's the better singer lol

elijah isn't exactly a bad singer, but he included a bit where he jokingly sings in one of his old skit videos one time. and. the comments were not tactful in their critiques to say the least. so he rarely does more than humming now after that experience lol

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[universallyvoidbird]

Okay maybe if you didn't block me I wouldn't have to resort to this but kk.

1. Usual Christian tactic of throwing the OT under the bus. Nonetheless these acts were condoned by God.

2. Yes the bible has rules for enslaving fellow Israelites and capturing non-Israelites in battle. I thought that was common knowledge.

3. What's your obsession with Muslims stepping into Western countries? We aren't gargling on your "values" honey. If you have any.

4. How did it rebuke my lie? What do you think they did to those girls? Gave them a warm welcome? You said in your previous posts how they'd "take care" of them, God literally commanded armies to kill CHILDREN and now he's suddenly worried about the welfare of young girls?? And girls specifically. Wowww

5. Exodus talks about beating your slave, you just can't beat them to death. That's not too much to process honey.

6. The word used in Luke is "duolos" which means slave.

7. Paul still condoned slavery. I wouldn't say he was HORRIBLE to slaves but he still advised them to be subservient to their masters and made little effort to go against slavery.

8. No the verse talks about SLAVES. Can you provide me proof that this verse specifically talks about leaders or something? It doesn't matter to me that Paul called himself a slave to Chirst or that the bible said "there is no slave". So what? The bible also says "there is no male or female" yet women are still subjugated LMAO. But yet again the bible is a steaming pile of contradictions and absurd trash soooo ...

9. Yeah you are a Christian, so I would assume you wouldn't read the Quran therefore how can you argue against it? Can you site me proof that taqiyyah is lying about your religion to make it more presentable to non-Muslims? You're sinking faster than the titanic Hon.

10. Yes I do have proof of Aisha being 19, I suggest you read this:

A literal non-Muslim scholar Joshua Little has spoken about this fabrication.

11. Still Mary isn't that big of a deal in the bible that Christians make her out to be. Ruth's entire story is centered around her love-life. Rehab was a great and prominent woman in the bible but still, their roles are downplayed by all the men in it. I looked up 20 of the most amazing women in the bible and half of them were just known as mothers while more attention was focused on their sons. Like Sarah, Rebekah, Rachel, Leah (forever known as the woman Jacob didn't love) etc. Also wowww genealogy is talking about sons n fathers how surprising.

12. Because we Muslims feel like WE have to bc you guys have twisted our religion to fit your agenda, all of what's happening in Muslim countries is fairly recent and largely due to war and corrupt governments. It has nothing to do with OUR religion. Islam by far recognizes women and allows them to be active members of societies contributing to much more than just the "domestic sphere" thank you very much.

13. I love how they didn't site a source abt the "small minority Muslim scholars who say the Quran doesn't allow wife beatings" like hello - Ibn Hajr, Ibn Abbas etc.??? Are these suddenly minor scholars? Also they didn't refute the claim abt the verse having a different meaning either they just chose to conveniently ignore it and say OHH WELL ITS NOT THE MAJORITY OPINION SO THEREFORE WRONG!!!

Let's refute the hadiths now:

1. Struck" is a bad translation here. The word used is 'lahaza' , which could be translated as "Push" and at most "slap with an open palm" but not a hard, violent slap (and note translating it as "slap" is weaker and less probable). A correct translation would be:

- He pushed me (lahadani) in the chest (fi sadri) with a push (lahdatan)which made me sore (awja'atni).

It is very interesting to note that "pushing" of the Prophet does indeed convey meaning - usually to drive away evil influence and thought.

- Amir ibn Raba and Sahl ibn Hunayf went out to bathe. Amir took off his woolen robe. He [Sahl] narrates: "I looked at him and I cast the evil eye on him. He went down into the water then I heard a noise coming from him. I called out to him three times but there was no answer. I went to call the Messenger of Allah who came on foot and waded his way in the water. Then he slapped/pushed his chest with his hand, saying: "O Allah! drive away from him its heat and its coolness and its harm." Then he rose up and said: "If one of you sees something that pleases him in his brother - whether in his person or property - let him invoke blessing for him, for the evil eye is a reality." *(Tafsir ibn Kathir)*

Similarly, in a narration it states:

- Ubbay said: There occurred in my mind a sort of denial which did not occur even during the Days of Ignorance. When the Messenger of Allah saw how I was affected, he slapped/pushed me on the chest. I broke into a sweat and felt as if I were looking at Allah in fear. *(Sahih Muslim)*

*JibreelK comments*:

There is another incident when a man of Quraish was trying to kill the prophet while he was making tawaf around the kaba. He kept getting closer and closer to him, and the prophet was receiving revelation of his intentions. The prophet kept asking him about his intention while this person was denying it but persisted in his goal and would try again. When he got really close to him, the prophet hit him on his chest and all the doubts and disbelief left his heart and he became a believer.

The above examples and poofs go to show that the prophet did not hit Aysha as abuse or as wife beating as the Orientalists claim, he pushed her as to remove any ill doubts or suspicion out of her heart of HIM NOT BEING FAIR TO HER (which is proven by the question he asks her in the hadith). He did the same to some companions and to many others he would put his hand on their heart, and pray for them, push their chest, and other proximity methods in order to remove the doubts or ill thoughts from their heart.

Next hadith:

2. Same bad translation. Yes, Abu Bakr was mad at his daughter, but it says that he pushed her. Abu Bakr was his companion and like all men he made mistakes, so idk what was the point of you bringing this up. I just wanted to clarify that he did not hit her but he was upset with her.

3. Third hadith has a bad isnad, it's matn I.e contents are also questionable therefore it is not authentic. It also goes against other hadiths. Why do you think the scholars issued fatwas on how Muslim women could divorce their husbands if they dont provide enough for them? Lol.

Liberal muslims on TikTok trying to convince us that Islam is the most feminist safest religion for women where any girl can be a business owner and have her own life while every male muslim believes women are inferior, despite praying will be destined for hell for being female, made to only make children and stay inside a house while those males justify child marriage, abuse and sex slavery is so ironic to see. And it’s harder even to see so many Christians fall for this.

I had watch a brief clip of some guy asking people what they feel when they heard the name of Jesus and the Islam prophet and so many people were emotional for the muslim on. This all feels like a spell to me being castedon the public

Muslims who grown up & live in the West have no room to talk about "feminist Islam" when the countries mistreating women the most are all Muslim. It's no coincidence.

We all know that Western culture is the only thing that keep Muslim men on check. I will never trust them when it comes to talk about female rights or whatever.

It's funny to see Muslims trying to debunk the Aisha being married at 6 saying "oh but the age calculation system was different!!!" when Aisha age was not debated like that in Islam UNTIL Westerners started inquiring them about it (I guess it didn't occur to Muslims that child marriage was a problem until then....) that's why they started resorted to flimsy excuses to not expose themselves as a pedophile enabling cult Soooo they pull out those coping excuses, saying that Aisha was actually twice older than the age described in their book.....which is stupid because you don't see them argue over other Islamic characters age, saying they are twice their described age. Like, WHY Aisha is the only character whose age is with a Islamic age calculation...but others characters' age isn't? 🤔 The math ain't mathing lol

And yeah I think people now are just scared to speak ill of Islam/Mohamed because of terrorism and Muslim overall aggressiveness whenever you dare criticize them. Look at them harassing apostates, and it's worse for ex Muslim converting to Christianism. Say what you want about Christianism, but ex Christians aren't out there changing identity because their family/community would literally KILL THEM for leaving Christianity. I do feel emotional when I hear the name of Mohamed too, but that's because I think of the countless victims his demonic cult did.

[quinnfebrey]

ok here to gush abt fatin!! because omg can we talk abt how much she's like grown and developed between s1 and s2 !! like dont get me wrong she was a hot bitch in s1 and ofc had her good moments but you can really see how much she has come to care for all the girls (esp leah). like in season 2 she cares for everyone soooo much and stays so strong for them and i would just like all of us to appreciate her and how amazing she is. ok thats all #stanfatin

omg i know she was so good in s2!! i think she was honestly the only character done justice. the "ditto, bitch. different her" scene is one of my favorites, and so is the scene of her defending rachel

[missr3n3]

can we maybe hear abt rachel 👁👁

I really wanna know what that kid was like (unless you've already made a post abt her and I missed it-)

i have not made a post dedicated to her yet! (at least, not to her canon version)

she was an imaginative yet shy kid, usually clinging to her parents or leah and letting them do the talking for her when around strangers. she was showing an interesting in drawing a few years before she passed, though she never got the chance to sharpen her skills beyond lopsided cartoon characters drawn in crayon. despite regularly attending church due to her father's status, she wasn't very interested in religion n would often get distracted during sermons. she used to have an even girlier fashion sense than leah, and had a small collection of fashion dolls that were her muses for drawing.

[quinnfebrey]

jewish leah:

no like i’m pretty sure it’s canon, or it should be, bc it makes so much sense

ian’s sweater from ep 1 gives off “my mom makes homemade cakes for my birthday parties” vibes so whenever he has a birthday party he makes sure his mom koshers the oven first for leah

as leah gets older she doesn’t keep kosher as strictly but wouldn’t that be funny as fuck tho if she didn’t eat the cake on the plane bc she wasn’t sure if it was kosher and they were like um Fuck

fatin went to leah’s bat mitzvah. i have said it and it is law

it’s been established leah didn’t really have any friends besides ian but if she did she would totally bring them a purim gift bag every year

leah initially becomes a book nerd bc she needed an activity for shabbat and now she just loves reading

she’s more invested in the cultural side over the religion side and learns yiddish for fun

(later, fatin’s like “hey teach me so we can talk shit in front of ppl without them knowing” and leah’s like “since when has that ever stopped you” and she’s ok yeah nvm. but she starts picking up words here and there)

post island they’re all talking abt celebrating their first christmas together bc Found Family and leah is like uhh so about that, and without even asking, all of them start researching jewish holidays

when they celebrate passover for the first time rachel and toni are like “we’re gonna hide the afikomen!!” but then they hide it too well and nobody can find it and they won’t tell anyone so there’s just a moldy piece of matzah somewhere in leahs apartment

this is a leatin propaganda blog so when leah goes to college and does long distance with fatin, they ft every night of hanukkah (they also ft every night anyway but shhh)

at the 8’s first passover it’s also leah’s own first passover putting an an orange on the seder plate and maybe she cries just a teeeeeeny bit

i feel like she and shelby would have a lot of talks abt religion and how you don’t have to practice any one way to be valid

leah stress bakes and sometimes she just makes like sixteen challahs but the 8 don’t mind

when she and fatin move in together leah jokes that now she has a shabbat goy and fatin’s like and a shabbat gay! ✨

dot buys her and leah matching sweaters